Avoidance - some macros

Totally bored one night and stumbled upon this, has taken me several days to read the whole thread done by Satrina but the guy knows his stuff.

Avoidance
That infamous word that makes all tanks (bar druids with there 3 tlaent point hey-im-uncritable-buff NERF)glaze over when they hear this word.

Avoidance is the total amount of mitigation you have (defense+parry+block+dodge+miss) added together, which is subject to diminishign returns.

Quote :

Dodge, parry, and miss are subject to diminishing returns. When you determine how much dodge/parry/miss you gain from rating or defense, it must be converted into the diminished amount. The diminished amount is what is added to your dodge/parry/miss chance.

So bascailly you make life for a healer hard work if you have any Dimreturns what so ever. Hard to get this im sure, however, this macro helps you decide:

Code:

/script dr=function(x)return 1/(1/16+0.9560/x)end;DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Need 102.4 combat table coverage. Currently at: "..string.format("%.2f", GetDodgeChance()+GetBlockChance()+GetParryChance()+5+dr(GetCombatRating(CR_DEFENSE_SKILL)/122.962)))

Unhittable for warrior and pally:

Code:

/run ChatFrame1:AddMessage(format("Unhittable at 102.4%% - you have %.2f%%", GetDodgeChance() + GetBlockChance() + GetParryChance() + 5 + 1/(0.0625 + 0.956/(GetCombatRating(CR_DEFENSE_SKILL)/4.91850*0.04))))

Just avoidance (paladins, warriors, deathknights). This gives you dodge + parry + miss only.

Quote :

/run ChatFrame1:AddMessage(format("Total avoidance: %.2f%%", GetDodgeChance() + GetParryChance() + 5 + 1/(0.0625 + 0.956/(GetCombatRating(CR_DEFENSE_SKILL)/4.91850*0.04))))

Bear Avoidance (druids). This gives you dodge + miss only.
Tauren:

Quote :

/run ChatFrame1:AddMessage(format("Total avoidance: %.2f%%", GetDodgeChance() + 5 + 1/(0.0625 + 0.956/(GetCombatRating(CR_DEFENSE_SKILL)/4.91850*0.04))))

All macros taken and found at Tankspot

As a closing piece the addon TankPoints looks good and simple to use for figuring out dim returns and such.

So as i was further broed i had a look at this http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15199333928&sid=1

With the general rule that anyone with 540 defense has roughly 6% chance to be missed + the 5% chance that the boss (83 elite) will miss you.

MISS = 11%

Applying this math to our tanks we have the following:

Huconan

Defence	544
Dodge	22.07%
Parry	19.29
Block	24.91/54.91
Miss	10.76%

This means total avoidance with 30% block from sheild is 107.03 > 102.06, which means Huconan has wasted block.

Zandaramas

Defence	546
Dodge	21.38%
Parry	18.97%
Block	17.00/47.00%
Miss	10.84%

This means total avoidance with 30% block from sheild is 98.19 < 102.06, which means Zand is 4.41% chance to be crushed.

Typhuse wrote:

This means total avoidance with 30% block from sheild is 98.19 < 102.06, which means Zand is 4.41% chance to be crushed.

Hmm. Crushing blows were removed from the game for WotLK, so not sure if this is 100% accurate. There is talk of bringing them back, but ghostcrawler said he would rather not do that as it makes druid tanking struggle again(we have no way of blocking crushing blows, hence why we were only really OT's during TBC)

Yes I read crushing was only for bosses 4 lvls above you. But I remember reading from somewhere although pallies no create threat with there white dmg, they still are vulnerable to to hits which dont hit there block spells on there attack table.

Ill try and find the artical.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Crushing_blow

Wowwiki article on it, not very up to date, but mentions at the bottom "non-blocked hit" which might be what it is instead of crushing blows. The article is mostly well out of date though.

Anyway, I'll get back to planning that feral tanking post I'm gonna write that no one will care about

here we go found it, its not crushable is the avoidance table, as in avoid any damage.
Found at:http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t37172-protection_paladin_field_manual_wow_3_0_wotlk/p58/#post1337042

Elite Jerks wrote:

The Hit Table

It's often assumed by casual observers that the different kinds of avoidance are checked in sequence, e.g. first the server checks to see if the mob misses you; if it doesn't miss then the server checks to see if you parry; if you don't parry then the server checks for a dodge, etc. This makes intuitive sense, but it's not the way things actually work.

What actually happens is the server makes a single "roll of the dice" to determine what happens on an attack, and all your avoidance chances, as well as your chance to be crit, are applied at the same to that one roll. So for example, if a tank is naked and using a trash can lid as a shield, and has a 5% chance to be missed, 5% chance to dodge, 5% chance to parry and 5% chance to block, the server constructs a hit table that looks like this:

01 - 05: miss (5%)
06 - 10: parry (5%)
11 - 15: dodge (5%)
16 - 20: block (5%)
21 - 95: hit (75%)
96 -100: crit (5%)

... and then a single random number between 1 and 100 determines the outcome.

If a tank has a 10% chance to be missed, a 10% chance to dodge, 10% chance to parry, 10% chance to block, and has enough defense to be immune to critical hits, the table looks like this:

01 - 10: miss (10%)
11 - 20: parry (10%)
21 - 30: dodge (10%)
31 - 40: block (10%)
41 -100: hit (60%)

If the tank has Holy Shield active, the chance of a block goes up to 40% and the chance of a regular hit goes down to 30. If the tank has Holy Shield active and Redoubt procs, the chance of a block is 70%, and it is impossible for an attack to hit without being blocked.

The important thing to be aware of here is that the more of each kind of avoidance you have, the more valuable the rest of your avoidance becomes. Every increase in your chance to parry, dodge, or block comes directly out of your chance to take a hit.

NOTE FROM TYPH Even though this is now out of date, redoubt no longer afftecs your hit table.

Anahka wrote:

http://www.wowwiki.com/Crushing_blow

Wowwiki article on it, not very up to date, but mentions at the bottom "non-blocked hit" which might be what it is instead of crushing blows. The article is mostly well out of date though.

Anyway, I'll get back to planning that feral tanking post I'm gonna write that no one will care about

I'll care will give me something to look at.

based on Huc's new gear:

Think this was calculated with the block enchant on the sheild.

Miss: 00.01 - 10.00 (10%)
Dodge: 10.01 - 33.38 (23.37%)
Parry: 33.39 - 53.33 (19.94%)
Block: 53.34 - 100.37 (47.04)
Hit: 0%
Crit: 0%

Calculated when HS is on.

When HS is off:

Miss: 00.01 - 10.00 (10%)
Dodge: 10.01 - 33.38 (23.37%)
Parry: 33.39 - 53.33 (19.94%)
Block: 53.34 - 70.38 (17.04)
Hit: 71.38 - 100.00 (28.62)
Crit: 0%

With huc's armour % he will not be affected by 60% of the damage.

Zandar

With HS up:

Miss: 00.01 - 10.00 (10%)
Dodge: 10.01 - 31.39 (21.38%)
Parry: 31.40 - 50.36 (18.97%)
Block: 50.37 - 80.37 (47.04%)
Hit: 80.38 - 100.00 (19.62%)
Crit: 0%

Without HS up:

Miss: 00.01 - 10.00 (10%)
Dodge: 10.01 - 31.39 (21.38%)
Parry: 31.40 - 50.36 (18.97%)
Block: 50.37 - 67.37 (17.00%)
Hit: 67.38 - 100.00 (32.62%)
Crit: 0%

This is seriously a foreign language for me...

Was curious about my DK status atm and I have no idea what all of this means.
*off to try it off or something*

hmm im kinda interrested in the script u posted there ty do u know how actually the scripting language works?